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21 hrs · What next Green Party? Now the election is over...ish it is surely time to discuss what our priorities should be, how the party is perceived and which of our many concerns we should emphasise in public. It is difficult to have these discussion because of the implied criticism that comes with suggesting we do something different. But I do have criticisms and do hope we consider doing some things differently. Under New Labour the GP could and did claim to be a more authentic left wing alternative. But Mr Corbyn has re-occupied the left and we have been left looking a little like Corbyn's mini-me. I was disappointed that once again the GP, in its public statements, did not emphasise economics. It was left to Mr Corbyn to speak most forcefully about corporate tax evasion, austerity and the blight of above-the-law banking. It should have been us. If a party does not speak forcefully and centrally about economics, finance and the laws which surround them, then the impression is either they don't realise how central these things are to governing a country, or they don't really care because they are more of a pressure group than a real party. Either way it marks them out as a party to vote for in protest but not for governance. I believe this nation needs the GP to be more than party of protest. This nation needs the GP to be a party of governance. In this election we campaigned most visibly on wanting another Brexit vote, on being pro-immigration/open borders, on wanting a 'Progressive Alliance' in order to help Labour defeat the Tories and calling for Proportional Representation. That's how it came across to me at least. I would like to suggest as a starting point for discussion that we begin to emphasise that WE UNDERSTAND that stoping environmental disaster costs money. That is why we are a party, the ONLY party, that thinks of the environment and the economy as two sides of the same coin. You cannot save one without reforming the other. AT the moment both are largely controlled by the forces of the Global free market. And THAT is why noting is being done for the environment. If we wish to avoid environmental disaster we MUST regain control over our economy. It MUAST be brought back under democratic control. No party can deliver on its promises unless it regains control over the nation's economy. We HAVE to be able to tax as we wish, control our curency as we wish, regulate and prosecute our banks and bring them back under the law, trade as we wish, and have the labour and environmental standards we wish. All these things can be done and must be done. Some in concert with Europe, some we will have to press ahead with as an example to others. It would be a radical party that set out clearly that this is what has to happen if any government wishes to be able to actually deliver on any of its election promises. We have to say loudly and relentlessly that the Tories are not the party who understands economics. We have to say we are the party that understands the economy in the 21st century. We MUST be radically and vocally anti-globalisation. I hope others will at least consider these ideas worthy of discussion. Top Comments 27You and 26 others Roger Lewis https://www.theguardian.com/.../true-progressive-alliance... This sort of School Marm knows best is highly damaging to the credibility of Greens, and the Green Party. This reminds me of Two under-performing former Goal Scorers Disputing and claiming the Goal that drew the match when Clearly the Arsenal Centre Forward clearly stuck the ball in the back of the net. A friend of mine Made this observation earlier.Politics, it's funny old game. Here's a different take on what's going on at the moment. Football is our national game and lots of people are passionate about it.So I'll use those terms I've seen a lot of people who are confused about people being up on a Labour loss. Labour have not had a good showing in elections for years, so this election where it was very close,(3%, closer than Brexit) is akin to a 3rd division side getting promotion and getting to the cup final and putting a scare into say Chelsea or Man Utd. Not a win but a fantastic result.Everyone cheering on the team and the manager. what a great job. On the other hand the Conservatives did very badly. Imagine being top of the league, in the cup, looking to have strong showing in Europe and then mid-season, the manager changes tactics, the team has a string of defeats, out of the cup, out of Europe and in danger of relegation, now reliant on other teams to stay up. If that was your team, as supporters, you would be furious, rightfully so and calling for the manager's sacking and immediate replacement. So, that being said, where are all the furious Tory voters baying for the sacking of the PM? When Greens claim we are the only party who understands or stands up for the Planet, that is demonstrable nonsense and is the language of a Cult, not a political party. The Greens dropped its monetary reform Proposals from 2015 for what was a limp and wooly 2017 manifesto effort. I think Caroline should resign as should Johnathan they have failed everywhere apart from in Caroline's own constituency reinforcing the One Trick Pony broken record presentation that the Greens have returned two with the Coronation couple in Charge. A true progressive alliance would have made Jeremy Corbyn prime minister |… THEGUARDIAN.COM Roger Lewis The Greens in 2015 had the single most important and Radical Policy ever presented to the British Electorate with the possible exception of the Nationalisation of the Bank of England in 1945. Check out policy EC661 The Green Party believes that, as the means of exchanging goods and services, the stock of money is a vital common resource which should be managed in the public interest. Yet only 3% of our money supply currently exists in the form of notes and coins issued by the Government or the Bank of England. 97% of the money circulating in the economy takes the form of credit that is created electronically by private banks through the accounting processes they follow when they make loans. for an idea of the full extent of tax payer value of such a policy see. http://www.positivemoney.org/issues/taxes/ The Tories Banged on about the Magic Money Tree the whole campaign an open goal which was not open to Lucas to exploit, 2017 manifesto dropped the policy, despite protests from Myself and David Malone. I posted this in the daily mail earlier. It is an annoying trite meme, many Politicians do believe it though, 9 out of 10 according to positive money. What we all need to do is pay more attention to the Much talked about Magic Money Tree. Yes, it is imaginary and it is made up, it lives not at the bottom of the Garden with the Fairies but in the Silicon chips programmed as Merkle Trees. link one for beginners. https://medium.com/.../the-magic-money-tree-exists... A poem for Light relief.http://letthemconfectsweeterlies.blogspot.se/.../the... and the main event for the folk with lots of courage and a strong stomach.http://letthemconfectsweeterlies.blogspot.se/.../neo... Nearly there now Check out What the 1844 Bank Charter Act intended all along.http://positivemoney.org/how.../how-did-we-end-up-here/ And there you go, you now know more than 90% of MPS about the money creation process. Magic Money Trees, haha, now there’s a thing? And Here, http://www.taxresearch.org.uk/.../the-one-thing-we-cant.../ And Here https://hat4uk.wordpress.com/.../opinion-labour-must.../... The Green party has I think been manoeuvred into the Neo-Liberal Left GateKeeper position, Bartley and Lucas are effectively The Green Party´s Tony Blair. Time for a Change I say. https://www.facebook.com/david.malone.greenparty/posts/1959801470906578 Roger Lewis http://londongreenleft.blogspot.se/.../after-general... Daren Price Some have alluded to going to the centre ground. Personally I think this would be wrong as we would then be seen as an eco-liberal party as opposed to eco-socialist. I noticed during the election campaigns no one really touched on the benefit sanctions...See More David Malone Green Party Parliamentary Candidate for Scarborough and WhitbyAgreed! Save us from the mire of the centre ground. The country does not need another centre ground, reformist party. Please let us not go that way. Daren Price I joined the greens on the back of an interview Caroline Lucas made saying the greens are an anti capitalist party. I then read the manifesto online & joined the next day. I enjoy being in the greens but I would see moving to the centre as a regressive step. Another centre/neoliberalist party is the last thing we need!! If we can keep working on our national identity, as I feel people still see us as vegetarian tree huggers, then that would greatly help. We can only do this if we equally keep pressing social issues as well as environmental. David Malone Green Party Parliamentary Candidate for Scarborough and WhitbyDaren Price I agree but strongly feel that neither environment nor social make us an electable party of governance. People need to be convinced not that we have wonderful ideals, but that we know how to run a country. That we know how to run a modern economy. That we know how to control the forces that currently control us. Neil Macaskill The centre ground may be crowded but so is the left - plenty of telephone-box sized "socialist" parties out there. Daren Price Neil Macaskill I agree but we're one of the biggest and most progressive. If we keep packing punches in debates, eventually people will listen. We just have to be persistent and consistent in our approach. Moving to the centre would be a regressive step I feel. David Malone Green Party Parliamentary Candidate for Scarborough and WhitbyNeil Macaskill My point is that the political spectrum which really counts from now on and which we have to understand is no longer left and right it is global versus national. I'm not saying left v right is unimportant. Of course it is. But it is not what defines the modern world and certainly does;t give you a focus on the real nature of the powers ranged against us. There are globalists on the left as well as the right. And to me they are just as much of a problem. The Tories and Labour are stuck in left v right and the left certainly doesn't get the global v national, I don't think. Roger Lewis “Neoliberal democracy. Instead of citizens, it produces consumers. Instead of communities, it produces shopping malls. The net result is an atomized society of disengaged individuals who feel demoralized and socially powerless. In sum, neoliberalism is the immediate and foremost enemy of genuine participatory democracy, not just in the United States but across the planet, and will be for the foreseeable future.” ― Noam Chomsky “This is the permanent tension that lies at the heart of a capitalist democracy and is exacerbated in times of crisis. In order to ensure the survival of the richest, it is democracy that has to be heavily regulated rather than capitalism.” ― Tariq Ali, The Obama Syndrome: Surrender at Home, War Abroad tags: anti-democratic-thought, capitalism, democracy, deregulation, economics, financial-regulation, late-2000s-financial-crisis, late-2000s-recession, leftism, neoliberalism “Technology is a means, not an end, no matter how brilliant it appears. How we use digital technology, exploit it and benefit from it depends on old-fashioned political concepts of how we treat each other: how we approach class, race, gender and war and peace. Nothing has changed in that regard. At present, we are ruled by an extreme version of capitalism called 'neoliberalism'. Technology in the service of any extremism has a catastrophic history.” ― JohnPilger tags: automation, class, neoliberal, neoliberalism, peace, race, technology, unemployment, war https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArbYjJXde1E The polarisation in the population is a natural consequence of Neo-Liberalism, it promotes a divide and rule Paradigm both in domestic and foreign policy. neo liberal graphic morph sequence ending “Neoliberal democracy. Instead of… YOUTUBE.COM Roger Lewis http://letthemconfectsweeterlies.blogspot.se/.../the... The Slaying of TINA , "She Who must be obeyed". Election 2017 UK. Neoliberalism shifted the political debate into a… LETTHEMCONFECTSWEETERLIES.BLOGSPOT.COM Shyam Ghariial At the end of one of the Actuarial profession talks at the Staple Inn, one of the Resources and Environmental Committee speakers referenced a few books including one that I'm going through at the moment by John Weeks. As a member of the profession, I see the environment being mentioned as being a primary concern although, as an investment consultant, the financial- environmental link can frustratingly often be overlooked (I'm trying to come up with responsible investment guidelines for fixed income mandates at the moment, which is tough). I don't know how much the GP engages with financial professionals, but there are groups in our industry (and others - proponents of the steady state economy etc) who are attempting to sway opinion and move towards greener policies (although I feel it is not a primary concern in general due to short termism and fixation on £-returns). Perhaps engagement with (& backing from) those in the City who care about these issues, could provide the GP with a little more clout in the area of economics (I'm not trying to take anything away from those in the GP, particularly you David, who already provided excellent economic analysis and proposals)? David Malone Green Party Parliamentary Candidate for Scarborough and WhitbyI think such engagement would be brilliant. I for one would make my self available to meet such people whenever and wherever they would like. Jack Dunwell What do you mean by "democratic control" ? David Malone Green Party Parliamentary Candidate for Scarborough and WhitbyWhat I mean by 'democratic control' is that major decisions about lets say money supply, be ones that are decided by the governemt rather than as it is now, by the private banks. I am not making any starry eyed claim that the government always decides well or that we have a fully functioning democracy. I am claiming that having some democratic control over those making the decisions is better than having non which is how it is as long as it is left to market forces. Oliver Tooley You make some very good points there. It is such a broad scope subject its hard to know where to begin. Alas, so long as Mr Corbyn is at the helm of the Labour ship we are bound to be forced to take a back seat, and in many ways we might be better of...See More Katherine Horner As a Green party member I think we should adopt a more pressure group position. Instead of this standing down and rolling over for Corbyn like our leadership is advocating. If we spent less time rolling over to the Corbyn gonna save the world fantasy then we might be able to focus on our policies and get them out there. I held my nose and voted for my piss poor labour mp because she only had a majority of 428. I hope now we can just get our policies out there. Neil Macaskill Speaking as a Labour member I don't think the Greens should be trying to outflank Labour on the left - it might have worked under Blair but not under Corbyn. There is a need for a strong green voice though in this age of climate change scepticism. The Tories have backslid now Cameron has gone and Labour are not pushing the environmental agenda as much as they should do. But a concern for the environment is not a matter of left or right - some of the earliest environmentalists were conservatives. Neil Macaskill I suppose you'll already know the founder of the first "green" party was an ex-Conservative, Tony Whittaker. Katherine Horner of course your gonna say that your a labour supporter so your gonna say anything to keep people voting labour. So why should Green party members pay attention. Greens stood down for labour Corbyn still went after Lucas why should Green party members trust Corbyn or the labour party Neil Macaskill Yep, that's how to get people to vote for you. Katherine Horner Cool well good luck with that in the next election. Jack Dunwell As a socialist, I am worried that the Greens get organised and eat into the young vote meaning at the next election we are shooting one another in the foot. Now you've got rid of the Ozzie whoi surely must have been a plant? Oliver Tooley If you are referring to Natalie Bennet, she did an awesome job. We would not be shooting one another in the foot if Mr Corbyn would embrace democracy. Indeed, with a truly democratic process, we could safely campaign for our corner without having to roll over in dozens of marginal seats to help Labour, and even then they couldn't capitalise on it and WIN the election. Jack Dunwell Sorry about Natalie, perhaps my hearing is oversensitive. Oliver the Greens are in charge of their own tactics surely? David Morey I would like to see the Greens as not seeking power but being the most forward looking, long term and holistic thinking of the parties. By clear, honest, deep and good thinking the Greens can work to keep the other parties honest, by asking the difficult questions and exploring real, realistic and long term solutions. Influence rather than direct power. Derek Chapman Absolutely, economics and environment must be linked. Are linked, demonstrably so.. Though this must begin to come from economists , insurers and investors to gain mainstream consideration. The elephant in this conversation is that longtermist green energy policies are unenforceable with the 5yearterm twoparty confrontational political system we have , and achievable short term gains on evolving tech are rare...Though becoming viable..( Dogger bank wind, Cardiff bay tidal, etc) Should greens go 'full lib dem', and court power by alliegence with socialist labour, or are we a think tank for environmental policy evolution? Tim Jackson, amongst others , argue that the solely GDP based view of economics is fundamentally flawed, and we must expand economic considerations to include the 'cradle to grave' C footprint and social costs too. Plus Bill Gates' idea of a 'robot tax' , generating national revenue from corporate automation is one the greens should embrace. I think our work is to cost everything in an environmental framework, using a 'Muskite' view of economics ( bold, brave and rooted in good science), then to sell it to mainstream economists. As previously mentioned moving economics from a purely GDP measure to a more (gulp?!) 'holistic view is a paradigm shift that we can fight with labour and green libdems too.. Paul Warren I think our priorities should be :- (1) develop a proposal for a post-Brexit platform, and start selling it (along the lines David advocates) (2) press for direct democracy powers: – right to initiate and veto laws – right to sack electees and official employees – proportional representation – abolish House of Lords – sortition seats in the Commons, for constituencies where No Vote wins – People's Prosecutor against corruption, incompetence, and Fear and Favour (3) monitor Paris; develop Paris 2.0 hard cap and trade, with strict science-led UN quotas (4) Universal Basic Income Maggie Caudwell Deborah...wyat about "small is beautiful? " where did that go? Nowt wrong with being a radical pressure group,as you say,it did UKIP any harm. Caroline is well known now and does very well. Please be positive. Roger Lewis Carolines Domination of the GP is a very bad thing. Caroline is not scrutinised at all not even a little. The Election Campaign under Lucas/Bartley was as inept and presidential as There's Mays. Some very strong critical thinking and criticism of the leadership is more than in order. Caroline needs to explain political donations Pre Brexit and also the donation ( refused apparently ) pre-Richmond By-Election. Caroline Lucas and Bartley are Left Neo-Liberals, they are not democrats and have proved as much with their condescending attitude to Brexit ( deplorables) Alex Scarborough Rather than think about Left and Right, why not about think about wrong and right? A lot of left wing politics doesn't make sense, a lot of right wing politics doesn't make sense. Deborah Theaker Ive become more active on Twitter and there is a lot of talk across Labour forums generally from people upset that Labour are not being more anti-brexit. As a remoaner I feel no one is listening to our concerns. For me and many others, a party that sings loud and clear that Brexit needs stopping or at least a parliamentary vote once we can see what an utter disaster its going to be would win votes. I also think, especially given todays awful news, that people are becoming more aware about private landlords and issues with that. It seems to me that there are huge problems with 'social' housing from fire regs to mould in homes. We need to get behind social housing, it needs to be fit for purpose and affordable. It would be a great policy to pursue and I think the public are ready to listen now. I also think that the link you make regarding finance and environment is a good one. People are anti fracking and Im sure that more government investment in renewables would be good. Its just not the sexiest subject to discuss with people, I would suggest that the majority of the public dont have a clue about how finance at high levels works - I include myself in that. Ive always found your videos helpful on that. Oliver Tooley I also voted remain, yet despite much talk of Bregrets, the truth is the country as a whole has not really shifted its view, and if you need evidence for that, look at how derisory Lib Dem gains were. Deborah Theaker Im not sure we can look at Lib Dem votes in this election as a barometer of public opinion on Brexit. People were desperately voting Labour to oust the tories. Secondly Tim Farron is not well liked particularly since he was so reticent about the gay issue. Roger Lewis On Brexit Deborah I posted this to a Freind ( Roy Madron Earlier) Roy is of the same mind as you. I am of an opposing view, I do not know who is right or wrong or in which Contexts. http://www.independent.co.uk/.../firefighters-cry-as-10... This is from Last year? There are two Brexits on the table Now, Jeremy Corbyn/ Labour Manifesto Brexit which is of the Social Democracy Sort or the Neo-Liberal Sort. The EU is decidedly Neo-Liberal Still, much of the Labour Manifesto would fall foul of EU competition laws. The Key to Brexit and for ditching the neo-liberal Voodoo Economics is, of course, the `Magic Money Tree" neo-liberal thought is of course that the Magic Money Tree should be in private hands for private profit, essentially the ECB delivers this and institutionalises Mr Schaubels Austerity. Any media from the Brexit campaign especially in the mainstream was deeply flawed. Low information propaganda, such as this from last year just reinforces the point. I have been doing some analöysis of all of the television debates, I am about half way through that exercise.Here is a word Cloud. A Blog, http://letthemconfectsweeterlies.blogspot.se/.../article... A report https://corporatewatch.org/.../false-dilemmas-critical... And a Movie, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pq72f81kkM4 May Aiello I must admit one of the points I disagree with Labour is not wanting a second brexit referendum. The referendum we had was completely biased by the media :-( I noticed how people are very easy to get brainwashed and are so entrapped in this machine where they are deprived of power they can't even be bothered to try to change the system. Yet I fail to understand how people consider the environment as something abstract and ignore its damage is killing us and we are killing it. Frightening! David Malone Green Party Parliamentary Candidate for Scarborough and Whitby June 10 at 12:58pm · A coalition for Brexit. I believe the Green Party should call for a broad national coalition specifically for the Brexit negotiation. Not a coalition government, but a coalition negotiating team. Created for that purpose only. I believe the negotiations should not be left to or monopolised by the Tories. Brexit effects us all. The Tories very clearly have no mandate whatsoever to speak for us all. I believe Caroline Lucas and Jonathan Bartley should publicly call for a coalition, broadly based, which would include Tory, Labour, Lib Dem UKIP, Green Plaid Cymru, SNP and DUP. For those who will say, 'But we are against Brexit", I would say this. Corbyn very clearly campaigned on the issue saying he would make sure Brexit happened. The Lib Dems campaigned for the opposite. Labour attracted massive support. The Lib Dems and Greens did not. If people were set against Brexit they would not have voted in such numbers for Labour. People did not vote for nor want a UKIP Brexit. But they did vote for a Labour Brexit. As the GP is fond of saying about Europe itself, even if you do not like the EU you need to be in the discussion to have any effect upon it. The same goes for Brexit. We need argue to be included in the negotiation for Brexit if we wish to have any say it the final deal. To continue to simply stand against Brexit and not try to engage in shaping the deal that will be done, is, I feel, to ignore the result of not only the referendum but the election as well. Marcus van Dam I'm German and was pained to see UK leaving the EU, but once emotions have calmed I can see and accept that being in the EU was probably like stuck in an unhappy relationship for many Brits, and more than that, trying to reverse Brexit and somehow not make it happen in the end will a) not resolve that and b) leave lasting ill feeling. However, I draw a clear line between leaving the EU and leaving the single market or comparable free trade arrangement, and despise the hardline vitriolic stance by May, and therefore wholeheartedly support this proposal - which as you say is founded on the acceptance that Brexit is going to happen: the question is how. Kavy Keptson I voted Brexit but then regretted it. I was in Italy last year and they kept saying Brexit and I felt sad as I wanted to be European. Well, I am European, but you know what I mean. My district voted to remain so my vote made no difference. My favourite...See More Paul Warren I don't just feel British or EU or European. I'm a citizen of the world, and I want EU-like freedoms for everyone. David Malone Green Party Parliamentary Candidate for Scarborough and WhitbyWhile I don't feel at all a citizen of the world. I feel British. Paul Warren That's not to say I don't feel British etc ... David Malone Green Party Parliamentary Candidate for Scarborough and WhitbyPaul Warren For me it's a question of culture. You see I think culture matters. And I feel it is so very often left unspoken about in most of our discussions about economics, free trade, globalisation and immigration. Culture is tricky to talk about.Everyone is so afraid of racists (with good reason) that I sometimes feel they are unwilling to even admit that cultures do exist and do matter to people. I do not like globalism not just because as an economic goal I think it is deeply destructive and does not deliver what its proponents claim it does, but that it also ignores or even seeks to erase culture as a thing of great human value. Anyway, just my thoughts.... Paul Warren I'd agree with all that Kavy Keptson I wrote about this recently on Mike Norman's Economics. It was hard to write about as I'm a liberal. I don't consider myself a racist, and my best friend is indian. But I do like British culture and way of life. I was in North Wales last year and it was splendid. I sampled great British beer from some nice pubs. My mum came from South Wales and I was surprised that the North Welsh had almost an English accent. Anyway, I love Britain the way it is, a bit multicultural, no racism, just nice. When I look around the world and and see how harsh other cultures can be, it's not nice. I'm from London, Croydon. Could the liberals, and I'm one of them, be so scared of being thought of as racist, that they could blow it and allow our culture to go? I'm not into globalization either. Kavy Keptson Al Bartlett, a physicist, talks about population growth. And also the exponential use of fossil fuels. It's quite scary. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sI1C9DyIi_8 Graham Lewis Can't argue with your logic David, excellent idea.....I'm sharing your post. David Malone Green Party Parliamentary Candidate for Scarborough and WhitbyCame from a conversation I had with a friend of mine, Roger Lewis. 38 degrees also has the same idea. The important thing for me is that I would like to see our leadership change their obsession from opposing to participating. Roger Lewis I think its necessary David. I go a little further I think a full cross-party coalition Government is needed for the period of the Brexit Negotiations I have summarised the main points as I see them here. http://letthemconfectsweeterlies.blogspot.se/.../a-grand... A Grand Cross Party "Grand Coalition Brexit Parliament" Any Government Formed by either the Conservatives or the Labour party would at this stage be weak by definition, in parliamentary ter... LETTHEMCONFECTSWEETERLIES.BLOGSPOT.COM Neil Harland Hi, Like it. Please go to https://you.38degrees.org.uk/.../cross-party-unity-brexit... have a look, if you agree sign it, and share. Thanks. Cross Party Unity Brexit Negotiations team As a result of the recent election the UK… YOU.38DEGREES.ORG.UK Roger Lewis Hi Neil this one has nearly 40,000 sigs already, I sent a link to david yesterday moirning I think it was I signed your as well. Cheers https://you.38degrees.org.uk/.../brexit-negotiations... Neil Harland Hi Roger, thanks for pointing that out. Glad to know I am not alone. I've signed that petition as well. It has to be the most grown up way forward while the childish politicians fight over who is 'king of the hill'. David Malone Green Party Parliamentary Candidate for Scarborough and WhitbySigned Paul Warren Brexit is all very well, but it's looking backward. We need a convention to look forward to creating a new open international culture and trade association. Let's invite a few countries from the Commonwealth countries, the G20, and the EU. I feel borders should be open, with a passport, but working rights should be a little more guarded. Trade should be subject to realistic recognition of human rights, workers' rights, and environmental protections. Alex Scarborough I am sick and tired of the European Union telling us what we should do. We had a democratic vote, which against all the odds, was to leave the EU. What worries me most is the EU army. Everyone said it wouldn't happen, clegg said it was a "Dangerous fantasy" when he was trying to ridicule the Leave voters. It is now a "Dangerous Reality". As some of the countries in the EU have National Service, the EU will make sure all the countries will provide soldiers for their army using a conscription service. In short, Tommy goes to school in Scarborough, leaves school and does three years in the EU army. That should go down well with all the people who still think the EU is a good idea. You may ridicule this thought but consider this: clegg ridiculed the EU army and it is now in operation. Roger Lewis Alex, You are absolutely Right. Here in Sweden, they have re-introduced National Service. I was appalled by this with the NATO and EU rhetoric and continued efforts to Drag the historically neutral Sweden into these Globalist Bankers Wars. May Aiello Yes! Emma Telford Speaking for myself, I voted Labour despite their position on Brexit, not because of it, and I know many who did that including my 18 year old daughter. The 18-25 demographic who apparently came out in droves to vote Labour are attracted by Jeremy Corbyn's approach to politics but are nevertheless still overwhelmingly opposed to Brexit. There was also a massive amount of tactical voting on the part of Green and Lib Dem supporters. I would still favour any deal being put to the people in a referendum when the result of negotiations is known, and that should include the option of staying in the EU Shahrar Ali Green Party 18 hrs · An insightful and at bottom helpful analysis of Greens role in future. I think he's put his finger on the importance of radicalism, though I think that's a path worth pursuing out of necessity even if people aren't deemed ready for it. Mike Shaughnessy says, http://londongreenleft.blogspot.co.uk/…/after-general-elect… After the General Election – What Now for the Greens? Apart from Green co-leader Caroline Lucas doubling her majority in Brighton Pavilion, last Thursday, the general election delivered a p... LONDONGREENLEFT.BLOGSPOT.COM Roger Lewis The Greens in 2015 had the single most important and Radical Policy ever presented to the British Electorate with the possible exception of the Nationalisation of the Bank of England in 1945. Check out policy EC661 The Green Party believes that, as the means of exchanging goods and services, the stock of money is a vital common resource which should be managed in the public interest. Yet only 3% of our money supply currently exists in the form of notes and coins issued by the Government or the Bank of England. 97% of the money circulating in the economy takes the form of credit that is created electronically by private banks through the accounting processes they follow when they make loans. for an idea of the full extent of tax payer value of such a policy see. http://www.positivemoney.org/issues/taxes/ The Tories Banged on about the Magic Money Tree the whole campaign an open goal which was not open to Lucas to exploit, 2017 manifesto dropped the policy, despite protests from Myself and David Malone. I posted this in the daily mail earlier. It is an annoying trite meme, many Politicians do believe it though, 9 out of 10 according to positive money. What we all need to do is pay more attention to the Much talked about Magic Money Tree. Yes, it is imaginary and it is made up, it lives not at the bottom of the Garden with the Fairies but in the Silicon chips programmed as Merkle Trees. link one for beginners. https://medium.com/.../the-magic-money-tree-exists... A poem for Light relief.http://letthemconfectsweeterlies.blogspot.se/.../the... and the main event for the folk with lots of courage and a strong stomach.http://letthemconfectsweeterlies.blogspot.se/.../neo... Nearly there now Check out What the 1844 Bank Charter Act intended all along.http://positivemoney.org/how.../how-did-we-end-up-here/ And there you go, you now know more than 90% of MPS about the money creation process. Magic Money Trees, haha, now there’s a thing? And Here, http://www.taxresearch.org.uk/.../the-one-thing-we-cant.../ And Here https://hat4uk.wordpress.com/.../opinion-labour-must.../... The Green party has I think been manoeuvred into the Neo-Liberal Left GateKeeper position, Bartley and Lucas are effectively The Green Party´s Tony Blair. Time for a Change I say. https://www.facebook.com/david.malone.greenparty/posts/1959801470906578 Roger Lewis https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RE8JpEHxI-Q Never Mind the Bollocks Change the Debate Heres… YOUTUBE.COM Allison FreeSpirit Willcocks We need Proportional Representation so that everyone can vote for who they want instead of voting tactically just to get rid of the tories. Thats the only reason the Green vote fell everywhere except a safe Green seat. Fear And Loathing in Dublin by Golem XIV on APRIL 11, 2017 in LATEST Once again, my friend Jonathan Sugarman, the Irish/UniCredit whistleblower, is to appear before a public body and attempt to put on the record what those in power and their friends in the banks have tried for a decade to suppress. On Thursday Jonathan is to testify before The Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach. Jonathan was invited to testify some weeks ago. Now I obviously don’t know any of the confidential story. How could I? But what I do know from Jonathan, is that it was and still is, his hope and intention to tell the committee exactly what he knew of what led to the Irish banking collapse. If I know Jonathan he would have been very clear with those who arranged the invitation that he would not be censored nor deflected into talking of other safer topics. He would have been very clear he would testify with his first hand knowledge of 1) what happened at Unicredit, 2) How this was an example of unwise or illegal activities within the broader banking sector. I know Jonathan has always felt it was imperative that what he knew should be on the public record since what he could testify to, lay at the root of the general banking collapse, shed valuable light upon why the government suddenly – and against professional financial advice – paid the notorious blanket, overnight bank guarantee and how this led to the crippling public debt that was its direct result. All Jonathan wants to do on Thursday is to tell the truth. Too many in the major parties, the Central Bank and the Banking community have worked and continue to work very hard to keep him and a few others like him firmly shut up behind a wall of legal and financial threats. Jonathan has tried before to get things on the record in Ireland. From the beginning he has had dealings with all the major parties telling them what he knew. Every one of them listened, made promises and later disowned him. Some even claiming they had never met him. Such is the immense fear and pressure to keep what really went on, buried. And I fear it is happening again. The invitation was to talk about banking and its regulation – things of importance for the future of every man and woman in Ireland. But in the last days when the Central Bank and the large private – so called Pillar Banks, of Ireland – have testified the central bank particularly has chosen to talk exclusively about such pressing topics as tracker mortgages and car insurance. So, a committee wanting to investigate banking and its regulation, calls in the Irish Central bank – the key banking regulator – which then decides it will talk about tracker mortgages? In my opinion, the banks with the help of the Central Bank are trying to limit the agenda before Jonathan even arrives. I think they are trying to make sure that nothing of import is covered and there is nothing that could lead to any difficult questions for anyone to report or to follow up. Why would the big private banks and the Central bank be so concerned to restrict the whole thing to set such limited agenda? Let’s take the example of Mr Richie Boucher. He is the CEO of Bank of Ireland. He is about to step down. You might think he might have a great store of vital, interesting and relevant things to talk about. He was, after all in the room with Lenihan and Cowan on the night the Bank Guarantee was agreed. As was, I have been told by two separate people who claim to have knowledge – but have never had it officially confirmed – a certain Peter Sutherland – father of the WTO and head cheerleader for globalism in general, and who was, on the night of the guarantee, chairman of Goldman Sachs International (A post he held from 1995 and didn’t give up till 2015). So you might have thought the committee would love to ask and be told by Mr Boucher what happened that night and what events led up to that most fateful of decisions, taken so quickly and so irrevocably by a group of men behind closed doors. But no. If you want to give yourself a headache go read his dozens of pages of testimony and I challenge you to find a single thing of vital interest to anyone wanting to understand banking regulation, or the lack of it, in Ireland. The government can have as much shiny banking regulation as it can find paper to print it on. And shout about how wonderful their regulations are. The fact of the matter is any idiot can have paper regulation but if they chose not to ever enforce them then it is naught but a store- house of toilet paper for the banks and bankers to use. The decision to bail out all the banks and the decisions to ignore all the warnings they were given by Jonathan and others, which led to the most momentous and far reaching decision of recent times, that has effected then lives of every person in Ireland, is still shrouded in secrecy. Do you know why the decision was taken? Would you like to know how Ireland got to the point that such a decision was ever needed? Why are those like Mr Boucher not being forced to tell on oath what they know? Do the people of Ireland not have a clear right to know? If Jonathan is told he can only talk about the irrelevant topics the banks and central bank have chosen to restrict themselves to, then they will have silenced Jonathan yet again. This must not be allowed to happen. I can tell them it won’t work. Too many people are watching. Too many are aware of what went on and whose necks are at risk. And not least, Jonathan, despite being hounded relentlessly, is not one to back down. He has kept his powder dry and what a store of powder it is. Jonathan already, a few weeks ago, bearded Draghi in his den. You can see Jonathan testify in the Eu parliament here And hear the question that skewered Draghi here And here is the list of Bond holders that Jonathan and I tried twice, through the good offices of Senator Norris, to get read in the parliament – both times being prevented. These are some of the bond holders the Irish government was so determined to bail out that it decided it would crush a generation of its own people with crippling austerity. When will the People of Ireland make their voices heard and demand that the truth and the whole truth be told, and damn those who have profited from its suppression? Why Are We Here?by Golem XIV on JANUARY 2, 2017 in LATESTI thought to let you know that the 4 part series I have been making is now finished and available in most parts of the world (including, it now seems, the UK) on Curiosity Stream.
The series is called “Why are We Here?” Roughly the series asks if ideas of meaning and morality are compatible with a purely reductionistic view of our material universe? I co-present the series with Prof. Ard Louis who is a physicist at University of Oxford. He is a believer and thinks the only way to honestly hang on to meaning and moral absolutes is to believe in God. I, as a non-believer, tried to explore if meaning and morality can be defended by searching for a different, less reductionistic, but still purely material world view. The people we interviewed are a who’s who of great thinkers from physics, biology, mathematics and philosophy. And so far the feedback we’ve had from them is that they all, both sides of the argument, believers and non-believers, really liked and respected what we have done. So in case any of you are interested, there are some links below. You might also be interested to know that none of the UK or US broadcasters took the series. They all said it was too highbrow. It isn’t. It’s just thoughtful. What it doesn’t do is pretend that there are easy answers to any of the questions. The series doesn’t provide easy certainties and glib answers. At least I don’t think it does. Our aim was not to convince either side but hopefully to engage in a far more nuanced and interesting conversation than the usual Television fare. The series was funded by the Templeton Foundation. Which might concern some of you. Initially, before I took the job, it concerned me too. But the Foundation said they would give us (read me and Ard and the production company Tern Television) complete editorial control. And they were as good as their word. The gave us the funding and not one word, not an email nor a phone call came from the foundation. They saw no cuts of the series nor any scripts before it was finished and delivered. Ard and I, David Strachan and Mark Tanner, who were the production team set out to make a series in which all sides were given the chance to fully put their argument. And given that Ard and I disagreed from the outset about God, I think we managed. Perhaps some of you will agree. I hope so. The four films are: 1) Meaning Seeking Beings 2) The Reality of Ideas 3) The Animal Within 4) The Moral Compass Here is the link to the first part. There is also a brilliant web site that contains all the complete, raw interviews broken down by person and topic. It will be on-line in a couple of weeks. It’s still being finished off. So anyone interested in any of the people we interviewed or wishing to hear more of what was said on any particular topic will be able to find it all at their finger-tips on the web site. I’ll post the link to the website as soon as it’s online. I would be glad to hear any reactions or thoughts you might have about the series, good or bad. Voting CLoses Mid Day Thusday 25th August Coming.On Leadership Qualities.Would I make a good leader? ´´If the Green Party feels it needs to up its game on finance and economics then I would make a good leader. I have spoken in public and been interviewed on television, on issues of banking, trade agreements, finance and debt for years now. I know what I am talking about. And my views are not fringe opinions. Many in finance and banking agree with me. Over the years they have often quietly contacted me to tell me so. I feel it is imperative that we convince voters that we understand what it takes to run and regulate and economy or we will remain, in their eyes, a fringe protest group not a real party.'' www.reddit.com/r/UKGreens/comments/4tqclp/i_am_david_malone_leadership_candidate_ama/d5jmsue If at the end of this past two months you have heard David at the hustings or watched some of his videos of talks on TTIP and Fracking or read one or several of his many articles on Political Economy and money creation perhaps you willbe able to do better than the vast majority of Mp´s who failed to get the answers in the quiz correct. When the general public knows and understands the answers to these 5 simple questions The Green Party will win more votes. How did you get on?
Here is Davids first statement of this Campaign. ''My name is David Malone. I am 54. I have spent over 20 years making science, history, and religion documentaries for the BBC and Channel 4. Since 2007, I have also written extensively about finance and economics. I wrote a book about the financial crash and I run a well-respected financial blog, GolemXIV. I have occasionally written for the Guardian and Thomson Reuters. I live in North Yorkshire. I am a father of three. I have been a member of the Green Party on and off since 1981. I am running for Leader because I think we need to have a serious debate in the party, first and foremost, about finance and economics. It seems to me that one of the defining facts of our times is that around the world the established political parties have surrendered to the idea that economics and finance no longer need to be under democratic control. This is wrong and dangerous''. http://electdavidmalonegreenpartyleader.weebly.com/ Vote David Malone for leader 1 Leader & two deputies for party Diversity!. See The Green Pistols Live . Vote for Green Pistols to Headline Green PArty Leadership.
The Billing of this show is controversial the Promoters have listed Lucas/Bartley as the headline act. Others challenge that assumption and have begged to differ particularly the #GreenPistols. #Shahrar4deputy and #Malone4Leader Other noteable Acts who presumably object include Veteran Artist and Green Party Legend David Williams In the deputy leadership billings there are presumably also object to the promoters apparent plugging of their own favourites the CO/Leadership Bandwagon.
Ful Bill from Wikipedia here. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Party_of_England_and_Wales_leadership_election,_2016 Some of the discussion of the Billing of the acts and their Roadies views may be found here.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Green_Party_of_England_and_Wales_leadership_election,_2016
The promoters have experienced other difficulties regarding social media sharing and links to the ticket site we have this alternative link we have created so that you might more easily download your ticket and vote for the headline billing. http://bit.do/FromERSneutralrecapLeader
Your top 10 Golem XIV posts – Updatedby Golem XIV on JANUARY 1, 2012 in LATESTI have a favour to ask.
My friend Mark Tanner phoned me the other day to ask if I was going to enter the blog for the Orwell Prize. I said I hadn’t thought about it. There was a tolerant silence followed by a gentle suggestion that I do think about it. I have and …well, why not. I never win these things because there is pretty stiff competition but what’s the point in not even entering. To enter you have to submit 10 blog posts from the last year. So my favour is to ask any of you who feel like it, to suggest your top 10 or top 5 or however many you think are worth submitting. If, between us, we can come up with 10 we feel are worth asking the judges to read, I’ll submit them. The entry has to be in – by email – by Jan 10th. I will quite understand if you don’t have the time but I thought I’d ask which worked for you. Thanks to all of you. For both the kind comments and your suggestions. I added up your votes for particular pieces, added one of my own and here they are. Liars Lexicon – Mark to Market 1st Feb Regulatory Arbitrage – What bankers don’t have to tell us 3rd March The New Normal 15th May How to Destroy the Web of Debt 26th May World Wide Credulity Crunch 22nd September Risk – tricky stuff 15th November Debt or Taxes – the battle of our time 23rd November The Hammer of Debt 5th December Plan B – How to loot nations and their banks legally 15th Decmeber The Miracle of Solvency 29th December I would like to express both my sincerest apologies to Hawkeye for not being able to include any of his pieces and to thank him for his wonderful contributions to this blog. The conditions of the Orwell prize are that you can only submit your own work. Otherwise I would have definitely submitted both Wall Street Fiddles and Irresponsible Borrowing and irresponsible Lending. Running for Leadership of the Green Partyby Golem XIV on JULY 3, 2016 in LATESTI normally keep my political beliefs out of this blog. Trying instead to offer an analysis that might be useful no matter what political view you hold. However, I thought some of you might be interested to know that I am contesting the leadership of the UK Green Party.
I doubt I will win. Caroline Lucas is a very good MP, will make a very effective leader and is far better known than I am. BUT I thought running anyway could still serve a purpose, in hopefully spurring a debate. So here is my candidate statement. And one thing any of you could do for me. Which is to suggest what articles, from all the years I have been writing, you would tell people to look at if they want to know who I am and what I think. My name is David Malone. I am 54. I have spent over 20 years making science, history, and religion documentaries for the BBC and Channel 4. Since 2007, I have also written extensively about finance and economics. I wrote a book about the financial crash and I run a well-respected financial blog, GolemXIV. I have occasionally written for the Guardian and Thomson Reuters. I live in North Yorkshire. I am a father of three. I have been a member of the Green Party on and off since 1981. I am running for Leader because I think we need to have a serious debate in the party, first and foremost, about finance and economics. It seems to me that one of the defining facts of our times is that around the world the established political parties have surrendered to the idea that economics and finance no longer need to be under democratic control. This is wrong and dangerous. In the UK one major party is happy that economics is beyond democratic control and the other seemingly paralysed by the fact. I believe the Green Party needs to say clearly that bringing our economy, our financial structures, corporate tax and our currency back under effective democratic control, is a central issue. In fact I believe these issues need to be seen by the electorate as lying at the core of what the Green Party stands for. Why? Because unless we bring finance back under democratic control then we will not be able to do any of the other things we want to do. Unless we control our right to tax effectively, to regulate banks properly and to control our money supply as we see fit – unless we can do these things then all our other promises are in fact empty. The electorate already know the other parties’ promises are false. Let us not join them. The electorate are crying out for a party that is willing to stand up to the stifling uniformity of the main parties and their backers. We can be that party – but only if we convince the electorate that we are more than nice people who care for the environment. They need to be told, clearly and passionately, that we understand finance and the economy. That we understand that this nation faces a double crisis: of the environment and of democracy. We cannot save one without the other. I believe the next election will not be about left or right, but about neoliberal globalism versus democracy. The trade deals, CETA, TTIP and TISA, will be major issues. We must be ready to oppose them clearly, cogently and radically. They are issues that I care deeply about. They are what will decide my children’s future. Give me the chance to fight for them.
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